1 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:09,160 [Music] 2 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:17,150 oh 3 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:19,990 [Music] 4 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:42,150 hey everyone how's it going welcome back 5 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:43,520 to the channel 6 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:44,480 um 7 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:46,800 it's good to see everybody here before 8 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:49,600 we start bringing bring on my guest we 9 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:51,360 have some great news today so we've got 10 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:52,640 the subcommittee of the house 11 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:54,640 intelligence committee 12 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:56,640 holding hearings next week so we've got 13 00:01:00,630 --> 00:00:58,320 ronald moultrie under secretary of 14 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:00,640 defense for intelligence and security 15 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:05,519 who also oversees the io aoi msg group 16 00:01:08,710 --> 00:01:07,520 and also scott bray deputy director of 17 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:08,720 naval intelligence they're going to 18 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:11,040 testify at the hearings 19 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:12,960 i'm going to be joining sean rash over 20 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:14,400 on his channel and we're going to do a 21 00:01:18,550 --> 00:01:16,799 live watch along where we'll be all be 22 00:01:20,550 --> 00:01:18,560 watching and we can talk about it as 23 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:20,560 it's happening so um look out for all 24 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:22,320 those links i think sean's put one up on 25 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,159 his channel already 26 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:26,479 so yeah exciting stuff you know i am 27 00:01:30,630 --> 00:01:28,880 tempering my expectations a little bit 28 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:30,640 but it's certainly a good step in the 29 00:01:33,749 --> 00:01:32,880 right direction so um 30 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:33,759 yeah 31 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,759 good news so without any further ado 32 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:37,360 let's bring on my guest i'm really 33 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:38,400 really looking forward to this 34 00:01:42,389 --> 00:01:40,880 conversation um for anyone that's seen a 35 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,399 tear in the sky you'll know that it was 36 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:44,799 absolutely fantastic documentary 37 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:47,600 so without further ado uh please welcome 38 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:50,320 caroline corey caroline welcome hey 39 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:52,479 vinnie thanks for having me this is my 40 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:54,640 pleasure thank you so much for agreeing 41 00:01:58,709 --> 00:01:56,479 to do this i'm i'm really excited 42 00:01:59,910 --> 00:01:58,719 looking forward to this conversation 43 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:59,920 same here 44 00:02:02,870 --> 00:02:01,920 very excited 45 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:02,880 first of all i have to say 46 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:04,799 congratulations on the documentary it 47 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:07,680 was absolutely amazing and the success 48 00:02:11,910 --> 00:02:09,520 that it's had already in such a short 49 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:11,920 amount of time you must be really happy 50 00:02:18,150 --> 00:02:15,520 i'm very happy look where we made number 51 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:18,160 two on the itunes charge on the first 52 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:21,040 day normally you know you climb up over 53 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:23,520 several days so that was incredible 54 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:26,239 we're still in the top four i think 55 00:02:30,309 --> 00:02:27,440 and 56 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:30,319 also the attention we're getting from 57 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:33,599 the mainstream uh is very exciting for 58 00:02:37,350 --> 00:02:35,920 me because that's the point of making 59 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:37,360 films you know 60 00:02:44,949 --> 00:02:38,239 so 61 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:44,959 reviews have been amazing you know 62 00:02:48,949 --> 00:02:46,480 there's always a couple of people who 63 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:48,959 don't like you no matter what you do 64 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:51,760 you know but in general it's been very 65 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:54,879 very amazing so far so thanks to 66 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:56,879 everyone that's been uh 67 00:03:00,390 --> 00:02:58,720 watching and supporting 68 00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:00,400 that's great thank you now we will 69 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:01,920 obviously we're here to talk about the 70 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:03,440 documentary but i thought it would be 71 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:04,879 good to get a bit of background on you 72 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:06,879 first if you don't mind so 73 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:09,040 um i read somewhere that you had some 74 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:12,080 experiences as a child numerous extra 75 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:14,480 sensory and precognition experiences 76 00:03:17,190 --> 00:03:15,599 would you be able to tell us a little 77 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:17,200 bit about that 78 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:19,599 yes in fact that's very relevant to the 79 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:21,680 conversation because that's how i 80 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:25,440 started out i was five years old and i 81 00:03:31,589 --> 00:03:29,040 had a spontaneous experience where i 82 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:31,599 started to see these beings you know and 83 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:34,400 we would like communicate 84 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:37,840 and so i kind of understood at a very 85 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,120 young age 86 00:03:43,350 --> 00:03:41,280 that i was able to 87 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:43,360 see subtle energy beyond the normal 88 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:46,080 visual spectrum and there is something 89 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:49,440 else beyond you know the physical world 90 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:50,799 and so 91 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:52,239 of course people ask me did you tell 92 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:53,439 your parents 93 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:56,080 i didn't tell anybody because i didn't 94 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:57,840 think it was special i didn't think i 95 00:04:02,070 --> 00:03:59,519 was special 96 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:02,080 i thought oh everybody does that that is 97 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:03,840 the normal thing 98 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:07,200 and so um but what happened from that 99 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:10,640 experience is it got me thinking how is 100 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:13,200 it possible that you're just minding 101 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:15,439 your own business then all of a sudden 102 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:18,160 you can see things you can feel things i 103 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:20,239 would see things that was going to 104 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:22,160 happen to someone the next day and it 105 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:23,440 would happen 106 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:25,440 i would see things on the other side of 107 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:28,080 the wall or you know things like that 108 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:29,680 and so 109 00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:31,840 that that sort of these sorts of 110 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:33,520 experiences and 111 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:34,720 questioning 112 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:37,520 got me in the field of consciousness 113 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:39,840 because i knew it was about 114 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:41,840 consciousness the mechanics of 115 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:43,199 consciousness 116 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:45,600 of course in college i wanted to make 117 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:47,440 sure i wasn't crazy 118 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:50,720 so i went to school to study psychology 119 00:04:54,790 --> 00:04:52,560 and you know of course you go through 120 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:54,800 maybe i'm schizophrenic maybe this maybe 121 00:05:00,390 --> 00:04:57,520 of course nothing was wrong with me but 122 00:05:04,469 --> 00:05:00,400 it was a good exercise to have that 123 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:04,479 academic background you know um 124 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:08,400 but i i understood even more it had to 125 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:11,360 do with consciousness with you know 126 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:13,880 and so even though we don't really 127 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:16,639 understand uh still 128 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:19,280 what that is and how it works but i 129 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:21,280 spent 20 years 130 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:24,720 uh researching understanding having 131 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,199 experiences seeing things 132 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:29,680 and getting validation after validation 133 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:32,240 after validation working with hundreds 134 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:34,880 of people from around the world 135 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:38,400 that there is something going on 136 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:40,720 uh even though we can only see the 137 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:42,160 physical world and experience the 138 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:45,840 physical world there is a whole other 139 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:47,360 world 140 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:49,360 that we are part of 141 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:52,080 uh you know the fact that science can't 142 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:54,320 tell us what it is or how it works it 143 00:06:00,629 --> 00:05:57,840 doesn't mean it's not there and so 144 00:06:03,189 --> 00:06:00,639 after uh spending all this time teaching 145 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:03,199 and writing books and working again with 146 00:06:07,990 --> 00:06:06,000 so many people and having validation i 147 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:08,000 thought okay 148 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:09,919 we're not all crazy 149 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:12,479 uh we are seeing these things we are 150 00:06:19,189 --> 00:06:15,280 measuring these things i need to go out 151 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:19,199 and make films because film is more 152 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,280 accessible you know to a lot of people 153 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,520 not everybody wants to go and read books 154 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:26,000 and you know and so i started making 155 00:06:31,029 --> 00:06:28,160 films on these 156 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,039 paranormal subjects 157 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:33,120 and i realized that 158 00:06:38,469 --> 00:06:36,080 really my work as a filmmaker is to make 159 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:38,479 the paranormal normal 160 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:39,919 and so 161 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:42,639 the way to do that is to bring 162 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,280 science you know as much as science as 163 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:47,440 you can you know obviously because 164 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:49,919 newtonian science doesn't apply 165 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:51,120 and so 166 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:52,960 that's what i've been doing with all my 167 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:55,840 films that's literally my signature 168 00:06:58,870 --> 00:06:57,520 that's fantastic thank you and i think 169 00:07:01,270 --> 00:06:58,880 you've made is it am i right saying you 170 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:01,280 made four films prior to its air in the 171 00:07:07,029 --> 00:07:04,000 sky documentaries yeah documentaries 172 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:07,039 yeah i have made other films as well uh 173 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:10,080 but in this genre and for that sort of 174 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:12,800 audience if you will uh yes this is the 175 00:07:17,830 --> 00:07:15,440 fourth one and pretty much the biggest 176 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:17,840 one you know you've watched it it's a 177 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:20,800 pretty big production a big deal 178 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:23,840 um yeah but along the same line 179 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:25,120 trying to 180 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:28,000 uh bring some sort of science to a what 181 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:30,880 we think is a paranormal subject 182 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:32,720 excellent so if we could just quickly 183 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:34,319 give us a brief synopsis of each of 184 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:36,400 those previous documentaries starting 185 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:38,400 with superhuman 186 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:42,560 yeah so superhuman was uh actually i'm 187 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:45,280 still very pleasantly surprised 188 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:49,120 at these uh success it's having it is 189 00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:52,000 about the connection between mind and 190 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:54,560 matter basically consciousness and the 191 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:56,879 physical world and you know a lot of 192 00:08:01,830 --> 00:07:59,039 people think that there's no evidence 193 00:08:05,670 --> 00:08:01,840 there's a ton of evidence if you really 194 00:08:08,869 --> 00:08:05,680 look into it there's a lot of scientific 195 00:08:10,869 --> 00:08:08,879 research and experiments that were done 196 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:10,879 to demonstrate not so much what 197 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:12,479 consciousness is because the 198 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:14,960 consciousness itself is not measurable 199 00:08:19,029 --> 00:08:16,720 but the effect of conscious the 200 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:19,039 interaction of consciousness and the 201 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:21,840 physical world so for example i can see 202 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:24,080 something remotely 203 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:24,960 and 204 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:31,120 does that work you know so my mind has 205 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:34,240 interacted with the physical world and 206 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:36,159 was able to 207 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:38,399 retrieve the information 208 00:08:42,469 --> 00:08:39,440 um 209 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:42,479 without physical contact uh if i am able 210 00:08:49,110 --> 00:08:46,160 to move an object telekinesis uh or 211 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:49,120 or see with blindfolds on behind my head 212 00:08:55,590 --> 00:08:52,480 behind my back how does that work and so 213 00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:55,600 this film in superhuman again because i 214 00:09:01,030 --> 00:08:57,680 wanted to bring science 215 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:01,040 you know i show a lot of experiments 216 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:03,120 live on camera 217 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:06,080 uh you know with measurable controls for 218 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:09,839 example can i uh change interact with 219 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:13,040 water and change the ph of water the 220 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:14,880 molecular structure of water is that 221 00:09:20,070 --> 00:09:17,120 possible of course so we put it in the 222 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:20,080 lab we do control you know over several 223 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:22,399 days several hours before 224 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:25,040 then exactly at the time 225 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:28,080 that you're focusing on the water the ph 226 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:30,640 you know jumps or whatever but then you 227 00:09:35,350 --> 00:09:33,040 do it again and you do it again and so 228 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:35,360 when you get this type of time 229 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:36,880 correlation 230 00:09:40,790 --> 00:09:38,480 over and over 231 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:40,800 these are scientific results 232 00:09:45,269 --> 00:09:43,040 we still don't know how 233 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:45,279 we said that but but we are getting 234 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:47,760 these measurable results so superhuman 235 00:09:51,590 --> 00:09:49,519 is all about this 236 00:09:53,829 --> 00:09:51,600 you know how our consciousness is 237 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:53,839 capable is entangled 238 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:56,080 and is capable of 239 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:58,959 manifesting altering physical reality 240 00:10:01,590 --> 00:10:00,399 that's amazing and i think it's always 241 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,600 really good to try and bring a 242 00:10:05,350 --> 00:10:03,360 scientific aspect to 243 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:05,360 things that may be you know not in the 244 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:07,760 mainstream side of or the nuts and bolts 245 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:09,680 side of the subject so that's really 246 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:11,680 interesting um if you could just give us 247 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:14,880 a brief rundown of among us 248 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:16,800 uh among us was 249 00:10:21,190 --> 00:10:19,200 also an easy contact they're the same 250 00:10:23,829 --> 00:10:21,200 it's a different version of the same 251 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:23,839 it's it's about contact with 252 00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:26,720 uh extraterrestrial or non-human entity 253 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:28,959 but it could it could also be like an 254 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:31,040 angel you know anything that's 255 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:32,880 non-physical non-human 256 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:34,480 and that is 257 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,560 as i was saying it's based on my 258 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:38,720 personal experiences too so i know it's 259 00:10:43,269 --> 00:10:39,600 real 260 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:43,279 um and also because through my work i've 261 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:44,560 come across 262 00:10:50,069 --> 00:10:46,240 many people and we've done a lot of 263 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:50,079 regression sessions so i was able to see 264 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:52,880 how they were interacting with all sorts 265 00:10:58,470 --> 00:10:56,560 of non-human entities so that's what 266 00:10:59,750 --> 00:10:58,480 those films are about 267 00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:59,760 and 268 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:00,959 also 269 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:04,240 um to show the variety 270 00:11:09,269 --> 00:11:08,399 of interactions it's it's not always 271 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:09,279 um 272 00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:10,079 you know 273 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:11,760 sometimes it's literally a physical 274 00:11:17,030 --> 00:11:14,160 contact sometimes it's interdimensional 275 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:17,040 sometimes it's some sort of projection 276 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:19,600 sometimes it's abductions i mean it's 277 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:22,720 it's a whole range you know and so 278 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:25,040 that's what those films 279 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:26,240 are about 280 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:27,519 and does that include the other one that 281 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:29,760 i was going to mention et contact yeah 282 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:32,000 that falls in the in the same category 283 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:34,560 same category and also like it goes it 284 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:36,560 talks about the contacts so for example 285 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:39,360 we also cover like crop circles is is 286 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:42,160 this is this a contact and the thing is 287 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:45,120 in my movies i don't come to one 288 00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:47,200 conclusion i mean the one conclusion 289 00:11:49,750 --> 00:11:48,880 that i come to 290 00:11:58,710 --> 00:11:49,760 is 291 00:12:01,990 --> 00:11:58,720 but you have to kind of decide what you 292 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:02,000 make of it or you know so um 293 00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:03,279 so we 294 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:05,279 you know i kind of bring different 295 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:08,320 angles to the topic to allow the viewer 296 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:10,320 to come to their own conclusions there's 297 00:12:15,509 --> 00:12:12,880 just like a huge amount of evidence if 298 00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:15,519 you really really look into the subject 299 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:18,160 yeah completely agree um i certainly 300 00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:19,680 will be going back and watching all of 301 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:21,680 those documentaries but let's let's 302 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:23,200 bring it up to date with a tear in the 303 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:25,360 sky how did this one come about and what 304 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:27,120 made you really want to go down that 305 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:29,600 path with you know tic tacs and and that 306 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:30,880 sort of thing 307 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:32,639 actually it was kind of kind of an 308 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:34,800 accident i mean you know 309 00:12:38,629 --> 00:12:36,480 excuse me sorry 310 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:38,639 not really a coincidence because you 311 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:42,000 know how that goes but um so originally 312 00:12:46,230 --> 00:12:44,800 i was going to do the sequel of 313 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,240 superhuman 314 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:48,320 and all of a sudden it was like two 315 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:52,240 years ago it was before christmas i i 316 00:12:57,430 --> 00:12:54,880 just had this kind of inspiration if you 317 00:13:00,069 --> 00:12:57,440 will like no just go out and do a ufo 318 00:13:02,629 --> 00:13:00,079 film and i'm like yeah i've seen them i 319 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:02,639 had so many experiences so i know i'm 320 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:03,710 like i don't know 321 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:04,880 [Music] 322 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:06,800 and then it was like no just go and do 323 00:13:12,150 --> 00:13:09,680 it it was so strong this pull 324 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:12,160 and superhuman was doing very well i 325 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:14,480 thought well let's just see how far that 326 00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:16,000 goes and anyway 327 00:13:19,030 --> 00:13:16,959 so 328 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:19,040 uh vinnie between 329 00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:20,480 december 330 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:23,839 and march those who know filmmaking 331 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:26,399 pre-production i mean 332 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:28,240 within like these four months 333 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:30,959 we had the storyline we had the people 334 00:13:35,750 --> 00:13:32,560 the team 335 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:35,760 the location the budget everything kind 336 00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:37,600 of came together 337 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:38,560 and 338 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:41,440 uh by july we were filming 339 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:44,399 uh by august september we were in 340 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:46,320 post-production 341 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:49,680 so this is lightning speed for those who 342 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:50,880 know 343 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:55,279 filmmaking so something must have um you 344 00:13:59,750 --> 00:13:57,519 know been assisting i want to say or 345 00:14:02,310 --> 00:13:59,760 whatever you know i'm just like 346 00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:02,320 it was so strongly go out and do this 347 00:14:06,550 --> 00:14:04,959 and so originally it wasn't necessarily 348 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:06,560 the tic tacs 349 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:09,680 but when i met kevin day 350 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:12,160 and i spoke with him the first time and 351 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:14,800 he told me his story and he's incredible 352 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:16,480 in the movie as you know 353 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:17,360 um 354 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:18,720 you know i 355 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:20,160 and the more 356 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:21,120 we 357 00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:33,519 some similarities and it was like what 358 00:14:37,269 --> 00:14:34,800 and so 359 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:37,279 so it kind of the story kind of morphed 360 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:38,800 into 361 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:41,120 we were actually going back 362 00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:44,320 to to do that you know to to retell 363 00:14:49,030 --> 00:14:46,800 their story and see if we can recreate 364 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:49,040 that story and it's exactly what 365 00:14:56,069 --> 00:14:52,480 happened same with the title of the film 366 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:56,079 when i had uh you know that idea you 367 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:00,720 know two years ago i i'm fascinated with 368 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:03,760 not so much the ufo itself or the 369 00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:07,120 technology it's using whatever that is 370 00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:10,480 but what is the universal law what like 371 00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:13,120 how does the universe work 372 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:15,839 is it the fabric of space-time 373 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:18,560 is it some sort of anomaly you know that 374 00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:20,880 we don't understand a physics anomaly 375 00:15:27,189 --> 00:15:23,920 i'm fascinated by that it's more like 376 00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:27,199 the mechanics of of the the mysteries of 377 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:30,160 the universe mechanics and so 378 00:15:34,389 --> 00:15:32,320 i always think that there are 379 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:34,399 specific notes but that's a whole 380 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:37,040 different conversation and theory but 381 00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:40,079 but in general i i feel there are nodes 382 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:43,360 within our space-time fabric that allow 383 00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:45,600 certain things to happen the warping of 384 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:48,560 light so we see something we don't see 385 00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:51,440 the warping of the magnetic field and so 386 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:52,720 on and so forth 387 00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:55,120 that allow you know this instant 388 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:58,240 happening and it's not happening so so i 389 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:00,959 am curious about these nodes like what 390 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:03,759 is the universe how does that work and 391 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:06,000 so i called it i didn't want to call it 392 00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:07,920 node in the sky you know it sounds kind 393 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:11,120 of not very sexy so so i just came up 394 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:13,199 with the you know with the with the 395 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:15,680 title a tear in the sky 396 00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:17,519 and that was two years ago and as you 397 00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:20,320 know you saw the film at the end we 398 00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:21,519 discovered 399 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:22,480 something 400 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:24,079 in the sky 401 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:24,880 so 402 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:31,600 everyone should go and watch it and 403 00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:33,279 there may be a couple of spoilers we can 404 00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:34,320 talk about 405 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:36,639 some of the things that happened um just 406 00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:39,360 a little fyi for anybody who's watching 407 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:40,639 or listening now 408 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:42,880 if you don't want to run the risk of 409 00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:45,440 uh spoiling it yeah maybe go and watch 410 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:47,839 it and then come back that'd be good um 411 00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:49,680 so you said they're how it logistically 412 00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:52,399 all kind of fitted together um so was it 413 00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:53,600 was it quite 414 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:54,800 the same when you were choosing the 415 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,720 locations and getting all the equipment 416 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:58,800 together and all things like that 417 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:01,839 yeah so again uh as we went along the 418 00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:03,360 more we kind of 419 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:05,839 get went into the production the more we 420 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:08,160 realized we were actually retelling that 421 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:10,480 story and trying to recapture it like i 422 00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:13,120 was saying and so when we were looking 423 00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:14,880 at the location 424 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,959 it made sense you know where are we 425 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:18,480 going to go you know i mean of course 426 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:20,400 there are so many places i know of i'm 427 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:22,799 sure you do too that we could have gone 428 00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:25,120 you know utah i have another location 429 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,400 you know 430 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:28,400 in northern oregon and 431 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:29,440 so 432 00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:31,760 but as we you know we said wait a minute 433 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:35,600 your boat was on the catalina channel 434 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:38,640 not just yours but also 435 00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:41,840 the uss omaha the uss kid that also 436 00:17:45,909 --> 00:17:43,600 reported similar 437 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,919 uh those swarms of tic tacs there's 438 00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:47,440 something there 439 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:49,840 and other than what the navy has been 440 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:53,440 telling us um also there are many many 441 00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:55,200 reports i mean we went back i didn't 442 00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:57,600 include that in the movie but 443 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:01,039 we we went back and researched um what's 444 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:04,160 been happening there since the 1960s 445 00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:06,640 people seeing things you know now it's 446 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,679 uh in books and um 447 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:12,000 i think a journalist 448 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,720 on the island wrote a whole book on 449 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:16,799 these sightings so so there is history 450 00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:19,440 there and because this is where these 451 00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:21,919 guys were on the ship of course it made 452 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:23,600 sense let's just go back there and see 453 00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:26,160 if we can recreate it and we did 454 00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:28,480 excellent yeah and now the investigation 455 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:30,000 am i right and saying it was a five-day 456 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:32,799 investigation 457 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:34,400 yeah originally we 458 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:36,559 we wanted to do 10 days 459 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:40,000 and and then i was like okay uh 460 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,640 we've never done this before you have 461 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:44,000 never done this before because i 462 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:46,559 stumbled on the group which was another 463 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:49,600 uh kind of interesting story there um 464 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:50,960 and so 465 00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:52,880 we've never done it with that amount of 466 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:54,240 equipment 467 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:56,080 you know it's like it was really a first 468 00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:58,880 from all angles and just to go out for 469 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:01,039 10 days yeah of course you want to kind 470 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:03,200 of have the the longest amount of time 471 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:05,120 to have the you know the biggest 472 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:08,160 probability of capturing something 473 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:10,720 but then the budget was 474 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,640 and of course i'm funding this you know 475 00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:14,160 i have a couple of sponsors here and 476 00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,640 there but for smaller things 477 00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:18,799 and uh i said you know what let's since 478 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,120 this is a first let's just do five days 479 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:23,520 and see how it goes and then if we're 480 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:26,080 worst case scenario we can always 481 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:28,720 see if we can you know extend it and 482 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:31,840 sure enough in these five days 483 00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:34,400 i mean i was shocked 484 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:39,120 at the amount of stuff we got i mean 485 00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:40,480 first of all 486 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:43,200 uh you know the typical orbs and things 487 00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:46,559 but the type of things that we got 488 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:49,039 is very unusual i mean you saw in the 489 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:50,080 film 490 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:51,679 other than the ones that look like a tic 491 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:54,320 tac because they go against the wind and 492 00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:55,760 things like that 493 00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,720 but 494 00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:58,960 we capture things that i've never seen 495 00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:00,160 anywhere 496 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,080 like those things 497 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:05,120 uh you know kind of raining down 498 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:08,320 uh if you really look at now i just kind 499 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,080 of a side note for those who are 500 00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:13,280 listening this is a movie okay so 501 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:16,400 we have not tampered with any of the 502 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:18,880 footage it's it's the raw footage that 503 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:20,480 came you know 504 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:23,679 uh we have not changed any of the data 505 00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,240 that is a hundred percent 506 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:28,640 as we captured it as accurate as 507 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:31,520 possible but in terms of adding details 508 00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:34,480 you know i mean like people are watching 509 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,640 uh i actually had a lot more information 510 00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,720 and my distributor and some people said 511 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:40,720 it's too much science like you're gonna 512 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:44,960 lose it's too much detail it's too 513 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:48,640 brainy you know so so we tried to put as 514 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,640 much information scientific and 515 00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:52,640 scientific information 516 00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,280 about these captures without 517 00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:57,679 you know kind of losing the the viewer 518 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,840 you know so people need to keep that in 519 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:01,039 mind so 520 00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:03,679 we have the authentic footage 521 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:06,640 with with some detail but there's a lot 522 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,679 more 523 00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:10,080 that is still being investigated 524 00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:11,200 and so 525 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:13,039 some of the things 526 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:15,200 are crazy i mean the stuff that's 527 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,480 raining down 528 00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:18,480 tell me where have you found anything 529 00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:20,159 like this before 530 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:21,200 you know 531 00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:21,919 yeah 532 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:23,840 and that last thing 533 00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,480 that is opening and closing with things 534 00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:28,640 you know popping out of it you know i'm 535 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:29,919 spoiling the whole thing but you know 536 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,400 even if i do people still need to watch 537 00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:34,320 it this is absolutely they need to see 538 00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:38,960 it yeah and so so in those five days 539 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:42,559 i was shocked at not just the the amount 540 00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:45,520 but the type of anomalies that we 541 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:48,159 captured that i was like oh this is 542 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:51,280 definitely a first you know a film so 543 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,600 so we left it at five days 544 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,360 no that's fantastic i guess the pressure 545 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,120 eased off once you started seeing things 546 00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,520 and knew that it was happening 547 00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:01,039 and you mentioned other things raining 548 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,720 down in the sky and obviously that's 549 00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:04,799 what we heard from kevin day from back 550 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:07,840 in 2004 on board the nimitz that he had 551 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,760 seen these things on radar just popping 552 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:11,360 out of the sky and dropping down you 553 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,960 know so it 554 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,640 it was almost like an identical thing 555 00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:16,320 happening all over again which was just 556 00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,159 fascinating so 557 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,880 yeah um what i was going to ask next is 558 00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,280 obviously the data scientific data is 559 00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,200 still being analyzed and i think we 560 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,200 start seeing some of that analysis 561 00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:29,360 coming out in in the coming months 562 00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:31,600 um but if you had to speculate 563 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,000 specifically about the object the thing 564 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:36,000 we saw in the sky at the end what would 565 00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:37,840 you speculate that it could be could it 566 00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:38,840 be a 567 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:42,080 portal i definitely think it's some sort 568 00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:45,760 of portal some sort of opening because 569 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:48,000 uh and again i i mean people are gonna 570 00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,120 have to 571 00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:51,679 see what the sign up now again a side 572 00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,320 note we're dealing with scientists that 573 00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,039 are nuts and bolt scientists heart or 574 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:59,360 science they're not 575 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:00,240 you know 576 00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:04,880 not because i talk about consciousness 577 00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,840 that these in fact i couldn't talk about 578 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:09,919 any of that with them they were like 579 00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,080 this is hardcore science don't talk to 580 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:14,559 us about anything else and that's 581 00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,720 important in fact it was exactly what we 582 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,919 needed 583 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,360 because 584 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:21,200 they studied the heck out of it i mean 585 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,720 they're not gonna go out look at 586 00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,039 something and say oh we found a wormhole 587 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,039 i mean that's like their whole career 588 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:29,120 would collapse overnight 589 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,760 so people need to remember that so they 590 00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,360 they looked at it 591 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,360 in so many ways could it be this could 592 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:37,600 it be that could it whatever maybe it's 593 00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,320 a maybe it's a solar flare of some sort 594 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,159 or some something 595 00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:45,440 and nothing's checking out like nothing 596 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,159 is making sense and so 597 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:51,360 um the fact also 598 00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,960 that these were reflective objects 599 00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:56,480 that were 600 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:02,549 makes you think 601 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,080 wait like so how come it's a cluster of 602 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,080 actual objects 603 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,960 that seem to be there and not be there 604 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:12,480 and in fact 605 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,520 after that whole thing closes 606 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:17,279 there's a few but there's one that's 607 00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:18,720 really visible 608 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,279 that pops out of it yeah 609 00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:22,480 and 610 00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:27,360 is a reflective object about this size 611 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:28,400 so 612 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:30,880 i mean 613 00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:33,120 it has to be something if it is 614 00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,559 radiation 615 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,039 or if it is if it is a some sort of and 616 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,440 then people who think oh it's a camera 617 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,880 malfunction no 618 00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,720 we had control 619 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:45,039 right before right after for days the 620 00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:47,360 same angle the same everything 621 00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:49,760 um also 622 00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,159 if it is a some sort of a radiation that 623 00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:54,559 we don't quite whatever 624 00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,200 uh radiation so we have the camera right 625 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,400 so radiation is going to blast 626 00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,720 everywhere it's not going to it's not 627 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:05,279 going to be like oh let me just like 628 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,559 send a thing like right there and then 629 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:09,760 so 630 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:10,720 yes 631 00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:14,159 i think that's what we found 632 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,960 yeah 633 00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,960 whether it's a portal like in the sense 634 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,679 of 635 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:19,520 a terror in the sky or is it some sort 636 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,480 of 637 00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:22,880 anomaly the atmosphere 638 00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:25,039 an atmospheric anomaly 639 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:28,400 that allows a sort of opening whatever 640 00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,000 that is it is definitely an opening 641 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,799 yeah so i mean it could it i mean 642 00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:36,320 it could possibly be 643 00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:37,520 a 644 00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:42,000 some sort so 645 00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:43,840 again another speculative question but 646 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,919 if you had to hazard a guess 647 00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:48,320 what do you think these others represent 648 00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,760 could they be extraterrestrial 649 00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,120 interdimensional do you think they've 650 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,279 been here all along or do you think it's 651 00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:55,039 a combination of possibly all of those 652 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,400 different things 653 00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:58,559 yes i'm more and more convinced the more 654 00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,760 i study the phenomenon the more i 655 00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,679 have experiences and the more i work 656 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,679 with other people who have these 657 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,000 experiences and especially after this 658 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,960 film i'm 100 percent convinced that it's 659 00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,960 definitely not one thing you know we 660 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,120 really want it to be one thing we want 661 00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:16,960 the government to come out and tell us 662 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:19,279 hey you know we've been talking to ets 663 00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:20,400 and blah blah 664 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:22,960 or it is just a black 665 00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,760 project or something it depends i mean 666 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:27,919 we've captured things that i can tell 667 00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:30,080 you i'm a hundred percent convinced this 668 00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,880 is a u.s oops okay human technology very 669 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:36,640 advanced technology 670 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,760 um and um 671 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:41,200 drone-like 672 00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,840 technology that that exists 673 00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,200 uh and of course they're not gonna talk 674 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,600 about it because it is a black project 675 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,760 uh but 676 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:51,360 some of the other things that we 677 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,559 captured 678 00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:54,640 uh that morph 679 00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:57,200 that are more light like you know as 680 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:00,720 opposed to solid you know drawn like a 681 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:04,840 that morph and do things uh 682 00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,760 also whether people believe it or not 683 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:09,600 i don't care honestly at this point it's 684 00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,320 like 685 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:13,440 uh there is a connection it's almost 686 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,799 like you see this this sort of light 687 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,640 that that um 688 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,039 that morphs into another shape that of 689 00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,760 course is behaving totally strangely 690 00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,559 and then you have some sort of 691 00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:28,399 interaction with it and then it 692 00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,480 disappears those types of things i it is 693 00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:34,799 it is extraterrestrial humans aren't 694 00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,159 humans don't even know what 695 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,279 consciousness is you know like or how 696 00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,960 the mind works they don't know how the 697 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,559 brain works they don't know how the 698 00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,080 universe works 699 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,399 so for them to come up with a technology 700 00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:49,760 like this uh no 701 00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:51,440 no i agree completely i do think that 702 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,120 some of this definitely represents a 703 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,880 non-human intelligence 704 00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:57,120 it's just a case of who are they where 705 00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:00,080 are they from what do they want i think 706 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:01,520 i like to think we'll get the answers at 707 00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:02,559 some point 708 00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:04,399 um so you mentioned the government there 709 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,679 and and you believe that they do you 710 00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:07,360 believe they know what these things are 711 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,720 or have some more of an idea than 712 00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:10,240 they're telling us 713 00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,200 oh definitely a hundred percent and also 714 00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:15,120 vinnie think about this 715 00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,080 we went out for five days right 716 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,559 five days with very sophisticated 717 00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,320 equipment i mean there's some equipment 718 00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,559 that's normal you know like the regular 719 00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,039 ccd cameras the regular night vision 720 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,120 even though they're very military great 721 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,440 night vision but also we had flea 722 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:33,520 cameras i mean each camera is like 50 723 00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:36,880 000 we had like eight of those we had 724 00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:39,919 spectrum analyzers we had magnetometers 725 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:42,720 we had radiation detectors we i mean we 726 00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:46,240 had a very sophisticated 727 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:47,200 um 728 00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,640 and we only show a few i mean we show we 729 00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,559 showed quite a bit but again this is a 730 00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:54,320 film i mean like 731 00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,399 we had uh a lot of all sorts of 732 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:03,039 detection devices right 733 00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:05,039 so that is also 734 00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,000 from a civilian point of view it's it's 735 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:11,200 pretty crazy right and so 736 00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:14,399 but we did that in five days 737 00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:16,960 and we were able to capture 738 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:19,520 hundreds of hours of data 739 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,880 and what's only what's in the film 740 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,760 is 741 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,760 pretty crazy stuff you know it's the 742 00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:27,600 typical orbs and things like that but 743 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,159 also the raining things in this opening 744 00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:32,000 and the you know 745 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,520 so so think about this if in five days 746 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,200 we civilians 747 00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,120 who are able to capture this 748 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:41,760 imagine what the government has 749 00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:44,640 with their satellites and their you know 750 00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,000 like they have 24 7 you know satellites 751 00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,799 and and radars and different types of 752 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:52,640 radars you know 753 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:55,039 it's if anything the movie 754 00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:56,320 proves 755 00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,840 that the government must have a 756 00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:01,279 load of 757 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,559 of stuff 758 00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:04,320 don't you think absolutely yeah i mean 759 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,960 yeah how could they not really with such 760 00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,880 high-tech advanced equipment you know 761 00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,480 billions and billions of dollars worth 762 00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,399 it it does make absolute sense that that 763 00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:14,559 would be the case so yeah completely 764 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,520 agree 765 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,120 um now after 766 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:18,880 all was said and done and you'd been and 767 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,120 you were in sort of post-production did 768 00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,600 you ever get an urge to 769 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:26,080 or has it crept in since 770 00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,760 about possibly going back and doing any 771 00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:30,000 kind of follow-up investigations 772 00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:32,080 oh my god we have to 773 00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:35,679 we have to we have to first of all um 774 00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,840 you know because scientifically you know 775 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:39,600 whatever you do you want it to be 776 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,559 repeatable you want to kind of again 777 00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:45,120 create more correlations with before and 778 00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,880 after and time and 779 00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:48,799 so we have to 780 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:51,279 uh we have many pla and also because 781 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,399 this was the first uh we learned a lot 782 00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:55,440 so 783 00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,640 and even more accurate because 784 00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,840 you know we're gonna get rid of the 785 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,440 things that didn't work and the things 786 00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:05,200 that did work you know we're gonna make 787 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:06,159 it even 788 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:09,519 more precise and better so 789 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,720 definitely 790 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:12,480 and we have several 791 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,240 thoughts and ideas sorry uh of of how 792 00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:18,720 that's gonna come about for sure 793 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,799 wow that's really good to hear 794 00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:22,240 and you do you think it'll be like a 795 00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,279 tear in the sky 2.0 just like a 796 00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:27,360 an advanced version or or do you think 797 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:30,880 you'll maybe do a different route 798 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,320 uh well i i don't know like right now so 799 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,240 but we'll see what happens but it's 800 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:39,440 definitely based on the first one you 801 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:40,720 know this one 802 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,519 uh just because of again the type of 803 00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:45,360 data that we collected 804 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,399 is just so different and so you know so 805 00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,320 it's so it's definitely should have some 806 00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,559 sort of basis there 807 00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:54,240 yeah and do you think that we may i mean 808 00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:55,519 people always talk about getting 809 00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,360 disclosure do you think disclosure is 810 00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,120 more likely to come from these civilian 811 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:01,679 efforts rather than sort of waiting for 812 00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:04,000 the government to say what they know 813 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:06,640 oh a thousand percent i mean obviously 814 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:09,440 we are the first group civilian group 815 00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:11,200 that's put out more data than the 816 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,240 government 817 00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,159 where is the where is the data that the 818 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,640 government is giving us oh yeah yeah 819 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,200 they gave us this nine page report 820 00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,200 saying it's inconclusive give us more 821 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:24,000 money we'll tell you what it is okay no 822 00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:28,000 so that that doesn't doesn't work and um 823 00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:28,799 so 824 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,279 that's why i wonder 825 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:33,200 if what we are doing and what we're 826 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:36,240 putting out there um my film other 827 00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:37,600 people as well 828 00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:38,559 um 829 00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:40,960 i wonder if that's not what's going to 830 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:43,120 trigger more 831 00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,000 of that sort of disclosure from the 832 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,480 government because after everybody says 833 00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,399 this is a tic tac these are all navy 834 00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,320 officers then they came out and said yes 835 00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:54,080 yes yes it's real 836 00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,519 and then the other ships as well uh and 837 00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,519 now more recently 838 00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,679 uh everybody's talking about abduction 839 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,320 and everybody thinks we're crazy and now 840 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,120 the 1500 page report you know from the 841 00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:09,760 pentagon telling us oh yeah yeah there 842 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,600 is a radiation effect uh you can get uh 843 00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:15,600 pregnant without any reason coming in 844 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:18,320 contact with these things uh there are 845 00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:22,080 abduction reports and nightmares what 846 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,200 this is you know this is the government 847 00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,080 telling us that uh they have reports on 848 00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:30,640 such things government and alien 849 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,519 abduction in the same sentence like 850 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:35,279 something is happening 851 00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:38,399 and i think it's because of us because 852 00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,519 we keep putting this stuff out there so 853 00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:44,000 that's why i'm very hopeful with this 854 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:45,039 film 855 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,159 and with 856 00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:48,720 everybody else who's in the research who 857 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,519 keeps putting this information out there 858 00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,960 we're gonna get to some sort of 859 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,720 disclosure because we're already ahead 860 00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:56,240 of them 861 00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:57,840 yeah absolutely i couldn't agree more 862 00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,720 and 863 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,640 i think the civilians are really ramping 864 00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:02,640 it up as far as these kind of projects 865 00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:05,279 go and hopefully we will get get more i 866 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,640 really just want to give a shout out to 867 00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,720 tyler at contact tour really good to see 868 00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:11,119 you my friends says vinnie and caroline 869 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,399 thank you for your dedication and 870 00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:14,399 commitment to this subject looking 871 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,679 forward to disclosure on the near 872 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:17,760 horizon truly an incredible time to be 873 00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:20,079 alive witnessing this paradigm shift for 874 00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,679 our human family 875 00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,280 thank you so much tyler thank you for 876 00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:25,919 the donation it's much appreciated 877 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,800 um 878 00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,560 that's so true though you know it i 879 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,839 think 880 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:31,200 it does feel like with we're on the 881 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,720 horizon or 882 00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:34,560 the paradigm shift is coming is that 883 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,560 something that you've felt over the 884 00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:39,440 years that we were getting towards 885 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,560 yes definitely and i think my whole life 886 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:44,399 path has been 887 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:47,440 uh towards that i mean like i said my 888 00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:48,720 whole 889 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,879 time the type of work that i've been 890 00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,839 doing 891 00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,599 uh is 892 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:55,040 literally to 893 00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:58,560 support that and to really keep 894 00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,800 bringing the information that would help 895 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:03,359 awaken 896 00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,720 humanity 897 00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,400 to 898 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:09,119 first of all who we are i mean how we 899 00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:10,000 fit 900 00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:11,760 in the bigger picture 901 00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:13,839 and what is the bigger picture you know 902 00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,359 because i think when we start to answer 903 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:18,880 these questions 904 00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:23,040 as to what the bigger picture really is 905 00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,599 this is when we start resolving our 906 00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:27,839 problems you see because you have a 907 00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:30,240 larger perspective 908 00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:32,079 you know you have a bird's eye view of 909 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:34,480 oh i'm struggling this with money and 910 00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,520 with uh you know relationship and house 911 00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,839 whatever you know all these things 912 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,079 but we're not looking at the bigger 913 00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,720 picture we are here to contribute to the 914 00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:47,359 evolution of humanity you know the 915 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,079 raising that consciousness so our our 916 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,839 daily life 917 00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,160 changes when you look at it from that 918 00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,320 perspective you start to 919 00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:58,800 create things you start to align with 920 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:02,160 career with relationships you with with 921 00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,359 things that move you in that direction 922 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:07,200 and when you do 923 00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,880 your daily life your human life starts 924 00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:12,640 to be aligned if you will with the 925 00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:16,240 bigger with humanity's evolution path 926 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:18,160 and it starts to be purposeful number 927 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,200 one 928 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:21,119 you start to be more successful because 929 00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:22,560 you're in alignment you're not going 930 00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,960 against it you know and you start to 931 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,359 find happiness isn't this what this is 932 00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,000 about are we here to struggle and you 933 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:31,839 know be like uh 934 00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:35,119 prisoners of a you know prison planet 935 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,720 i don't think so 936 00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,480 so that's why 937 00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:40,240 that bigger picture is so important to 938 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,119 me 939 00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,440 yeah i couldn't agree more um what what 940 00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,599 how do you deal with people like maybe 941 00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:47,760 family or friends who don't sort of see 942 00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:50,079 this bigger picture or maybe give a bit 943 00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:52,640 of push back on and think are we 944 00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,079 talking about that again because i 945 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:56,400 certainly see it in my life how do you 946 00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,000 deal with people that aren't quite on 947 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:00,880 the same level as people like us 948 00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:03,760 yes uh there are plenty of those um 949 00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,839 pretty much still most of the planet 950 00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:07,520 less and less 951 00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,320 because now it's interesting i mean this 952 00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,320 it may seem like it has nothing to do 953 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,079 with it but like for example take the 954 00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,480 pandemic okay it seems like there's no 955 00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:17,599 connection 956 00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:21,599 but what it did on one level is wake 957 00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:24,560 people up to wait tomorrow you could be 958 00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:25,359 dead 959 00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,680 that sort of 960 00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:31,599 kind of kick in the butt you know type 961 00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:32,400 thing 962 00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,640 starts to make you think wait let me 963 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:37,040 focus on the now let me focus on who i 964 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:38,880 am let me focus on what i'm here to do 965 00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:40,720 what's important to me 966 00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:46,400 family my kids or whatever so when that 967 00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:47,599 happens 968 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,480 you know you start to be more open and 969 00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:53,280 allowing it's like you know what's the 970 00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:55,760 important things in life are these 971 00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:56,800 deeper 972 00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,160 subjects right 973 00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,320 and so because of that i think it's 974 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:02,880 connected to the idea i'm gonna be more 975 00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,440 open hey if this guy 976 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:07,040 thinks there are ufos and they're 977 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,800 talking to extraterrestrials and they're 978 00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,240 happy with it 979 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,320 that's you know you because you you're 980 00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,839 starting to think of what's important to 981 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:15,920 you that's important to them i'm gonna 982 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,440 respect that you know so so i feel we're 983 00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:22,000 in a different time right now 984 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:25,359 where people are more allowing more open 985 00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:29,040 and um and so before 986 00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,520 i used to oh my god i didn't talk about 987 00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,839 this forever 988 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,520 and now 989 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,520 i meet people at the gym 990 00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,520 and they tell me what do you do before i 991 00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,520 was like 992 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,280 i'm not gonna say anything because it's 993 00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,160 like i just met this guy or whatever and 994 00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:48,720 uh and now like oh i make documentaries 995 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,320 on what uh kernels but stuff ufos and so 996 00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,240 like they'd be like 997 00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:56,000 well that's interesting you know i did 998 00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:59,200 hear on the news uh about this you know 999 00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:02,079 that has totally changed yeah so i 1000 00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:03,599 recommend 1001 00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,640 that people not worry about this anymore 1002 00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:08,480 just be yourself 1003 00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,960 and you don't have to make it like 1004 00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:11,599 conspiracy-like you know you don't have 1005 00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:14,079 to make it like government blah just 1006 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,359 talk about what you believe in 1007 00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,160 and i think the world is much more open 1008 00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:23,280 right now i agree i agree again uh the 1009 00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,560 same sort of thing happened to me you 1010 00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:25,839 know i was 1011 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,119 i was researching for about a decade but 1012 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:31,200 quietly in the shadows didn't speak to 1013 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:32,720 anybody and then you know the last 1014 00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:34,240 couple of years things changed in the 1015 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,359 world and 1016 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,599 it did make me re-evaluate so you know i 1017 00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:39,680 came out of that 1018 00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:41,760 everywhere across all social medias with 1019 00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,440 a youtube channel just talking to 1020 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,200 everybody and not being afraid of it and 1021 00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,280 it's it's made me a happier person 1022 00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:49,680 that's for sure so yeah completely agree 1023 00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,200 with that outlook 1024 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,800 yeah cause because you're freer you're 1025 00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,560 just speaking your truth you're letting 1026 00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,880 go of expectations but that's what 1027 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:59,040 everybody's doing you know we're in a 1028 00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:00,720 survival mode 1029 00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,359 what's gonna make me happy right now is 1030 00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:05,200 it's okay if that's gonna make the other 1031 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:06,560 person happy 1032 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,280 so it's definitely the time and i really 1033 00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,040 really encourage people to just be 1034 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:13,040 themselves and not worry about anything 1035 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,839 else 1036 00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,800 yeah absolutely now i could not do this 1037 00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:18,319 interview without asking you about your 1038 00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:23,829 it was amazing that he was in the 1039 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,040 documentary and michio kaku as well so 1040 00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,839 at first i guess how did uh 1041 00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,599 how did you meet william shatner is this 1042 00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,040 a friendship that's been going on for a 1043 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,200 while i'd just love to know 1044 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,440 it's not that we're friends we just met 1045 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:40,240 you know at different projects you know 1046 00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,760 it's not like we're best friends or 1047 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,960 something 1048 00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:45,680 but we're you know so so and also we're 1049 00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:47,680 on one of the same show history channel 1050 00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,119 show so so but originally you know 1051 00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:54,000 it was kind of a fluke because we were 1052 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:56,960 fine we already had kaku which i really 1053 00:41:02,630 --> 00:40:58,880 kaku oh my god 1054 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,640 he is the best to interview 1055 00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:04,960 he's the best to interview not only he's 1056 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:07,680 smart but he's eloquent and he gives you 1057 00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,520 like bites you know i'm a film director 1058 00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,440 so it's like oh my god he's like that 1059 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:13,680 was perfect that was perfect he's a 1060 00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:16,400 pleasure so we already had him 1061 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,119 and it was more at the end um can how 1062 00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,520 what else can we do 1063 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,160 to bring this a little bit more to the 1064 00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,040 mainstream this is an opportunity we're 1065 00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:31,839 bringing science so why not 1066 00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:34,720 and so we were talking and then uh i 1067 00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:36,000 don't know how i said well i know 1068 00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:37,920 william shatner you know like that and 1069 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:40,160 we thought oh my god you know 1070 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,440 space travel sci-fi you know we're doing 1071 00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,440 science let's see if we can tie this in 1072 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:47,599 together and but you know it doesn't 1073 00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,560 matter how friends you are or you know 1074 00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,480 someone you still have to go through the 1075 00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:54,960 proper channels to get somebody of that 1076 00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:57,920 caliber to be on your show i mean come 1077 00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:00,640 on he is a legend 1078 00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,240 you know and so you still have to go 1079 00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:04,640 through the management and this and that 1080 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,240 and and so i thought hey if it works 1081 00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,960 great if not not meant to be and sure 1082 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:13,280 enough within like three four days he 1083 00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:14,960 was on board 1084 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:17,599 so again it's another another thing 1085 00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:20,800 where things just fell into place 1086 00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,520 i had a sponsor you know who helped with 1087 00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:25,119 you know all the 1088 00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,319 financial aspects and stuff so um 1089 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,520 because it was getting a bit too much 1090 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,680 for me to handle and uh 1091 00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,480 and 1092 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:36,960 before we knew it he was he was on board 1093 00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:40,480 it was incredible and we had to blast me 1094 00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,079 and my crew interviewing him oh my god 1095 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,359 it was such a blast he's he's so funny 1096 00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:48,880 entertaining 1097 00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:50,079 brilliant 1098 00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:51,280 um 1099 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,240 and 1100 00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,720 i mean it was purposeful he he's not a 1101 00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:57,359 scientist we didn't bring him to tell us 1102 00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:00,400 about the science we brought him to tell 1103 00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,000 us from that perspective you know 1104 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:06,160 from the sci-fi world perspective from 1105 00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,160 the he's fascinated with the mysteries 1106 00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:12,319 you know he with the mysteries of the 1107 00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,839 mind actually he's more into 1108 00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,839 consciousness stuff believe it or not 1109 00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,960 and so 1110 00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:19,119 that was a great balance you know to 1111 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,319 just bring uh just his reaction 1112 00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,880 to what it was that we were doing 1113 00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,960 it was great to see and it did look like 1114 00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:28,800 you know he was a wonderful 1115 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,040 guy to talk to and sit down with um and 1116 00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:32,800 yeah i mean he is just a legend as you 1117 00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,880 say so he's only going to benefit any 1118 00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:36,720 kind of production so yeah completely 1119 00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,079 agree um well before before i let you go 1120 00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,000 if you could just tell us what is next 1121 00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,480 for for caroline corey 1122 00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,119 yeah you know it's crazy vinnie but i 1123 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:49,440 always have like three or four projects 1124 00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:52,160 in my head at any point in time i don't 1125 00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:54,720 know when i can get to the to the next 1126 00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,560 one um so i definitely have a sequel of 1127 00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,119 this but i also have other projects 1128 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,599 always along the same lines i think 1129 00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:05,119 because i feel 1130 00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:08,160 no filmmaker is doing that sort of 1131 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:09,359 approach 1132 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,400 um and so so i have a few projects along 1133 00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,400 the same lines one of them is going to 1134 00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:16,319 blow your mind but let's keep it right 1135 00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:19,680 now like just a kind of a little teaser 1136 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,960 but i'm ready to go man we want we want 1137 00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,640 people to 1138 00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,160 watch this 1139 00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,640 to support the effort 1140 00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,720 of what we're trying to do 1141 00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:32,880 we're trying to bring credibility we're 1142 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:35,920 trying to bring data we're trying to in 1143 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:38,480 an entertaining way in in a you know so 1144 00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,760 so then they don't feel weird about 1145 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:43,839 sharing it with their friends they don't 1146 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,319 go like oh it's like a conspiracy you 1147 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:48,960 know weird and no no it's it's a 1148 00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:52,640 fun very uh educational um 1149 00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:55,920 and important in the field of ufology 1150 00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:58,560 and so that's the reason why we really 1151 00:45:01,030 --> 00:45:00,160 really hope 1152 00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:01,040 that 1153 00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,720 the public will 1154 00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:05,440 support us so that we can continue 1155 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,760 making more of these 1156 00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:09,839 films and even go to the next level and 1157 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:12,000 to the next level every time 1158 00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,680 excellent yeah 1159 00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,880 before i let you go i'm just going to 1160 00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:16,319 give a shout out to this is actually my 1161 00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:18,240 brother i have an identical twin brother 1162 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,599 and he's here 1163 00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,280 thank you thank you bro he says have a 1164 00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:23,119 coffee on me bro i appreciate all the 1165 00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:24,960 hard work you do and i'm lucky enough to 1166 00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,670 i really appreciate that well caroline 1167 00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,359 again thank you so much for joining me 1168 00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,440 it's been a wonderful conversation and 1169 00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:37,200 congratulations again on the success of 1170 00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:39,760 the documentary to anybody watching 1171 00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,680 listening i highly recommend you go and 1172 00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,000 check it out it's it's a great it's so 1173 00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,240 up to date it's what's needed right now 1174 00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,280 with the scientific study um one last 1175 00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,119 thing caroline and i have got all your 1176 00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,880 links and stuff in the description of 1177 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,480 this video but for anyone that will 1178 00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,160 listen to this in the future on audio 1179 00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:58,720 only where can people find you 1180 00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:01,200 the best way to to do this is just to go 1181 00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:04,319 to the website a tear in the sky dot com 1182 00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,160 because they'll see the links to where 1183 00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:07,839 you can purchase it in whatever country 1184 00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,760 you are you know it's on amazon itunes 1185 00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:11,760 vimeo everywhere but different countries 1186 00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:13,760 have different platforms so 1187 00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:15,680 itaranthasky.com 1188 00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,319 and also like on all the social medias 1189 00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,640 you know it's like we have to 1190 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,160 i don't know if that's my favorite thing 1191 00:46:26,829 --> 00:46:24,960 to do but we have to when we are putting 1192 00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:26,839 up work like this 1193 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,599 absolutely um and for everyone um 1194 00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,880 who's going to come back to this channel 1195 00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,720 in the future i will be back hopefully 1196 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,720 this weekend uh with ralph blumenthal 1197 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:36,480 we're just trying to hash out a 1198 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,560 particular time then next week i'm going 1199 00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,480 to be live with chris leto 1200 00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:42,400 um towards the end of next week i have 1201 00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,359 my science panel with kevin knuth gary 1202 00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:48,720 nolan michael masters and rich hoffman 1203 00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,079 but if you follow me on twitter and 1204 00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:52,000 instagram you can see all my updates and 1205 00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,760 and everything there but for now 1206 00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,359 everyone thank you so much for watching 1207 00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:57,359 thank you again caroline and we'll see